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		<title>Cloud Computing Podcast with Techtarget – Part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><a href="http://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-222" title="TechTarget Logo" src="http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/templ_headerlogo1.gif" alt="TechTarget Logo" width="166" height="129" /></a>My podcast with <a title="SearchCloudComputing from TechTarget" href="http://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/" target="_blank">SearchCloudComputing</a>&#8216;s Carl Brooks (<a title="Twitter's @eekygeeky" href="http://twitter.com/eekygeeky" target="_blank">Twitter&#8217;s @eekygeeky</a>) was so much fun. In this two-part podcast, Carl and I talk about all sorts of issues regarding the management of cloud computing &#8211; a critical part of EMA&#8217;s &#8216;Responsible Cloud&#8217; approach to cloud computing. <img title="More..." src="http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" />Of course I had too much to say to fit in just a single short burst, so this post is about part 2 of the podcast.<span id="more-106"></span></p>
<p>In part 2 of podcast, Carl and I talk about:</p>
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<li> cost details, pricing, and licensing models for cloud management tools</li>
<li>options for open source and &#8216;freemium&#8217; tools for cloud computing management</li>
<li>the problems of an old-school approach to cloud computing management</li>
<li>the issues of paying for cloud computing management using</li></ul><p>&#8230;</p>]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-222" title="TechTarget Logo" src="http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/templ_headerlogo1.gif" alt="TechTarget Logo" width="166" height="129" /></a>My podcast with <a title="SearchCloudComputing from TechTarget" href="http://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/" target="_blank">SearchCloudComputing</a>&#8216;s Carl Brooks (<a title="Twitter's @eekygeeky" href="http://twitter.com/eekygeeky" target="_blank">Twitter&#8217;s @eekygeeky</a>) was so much fun. In this two-part podcast, Carl and I talk about all sorts of issues regarding the management of cloud computing &#8211; a critical part of EMA&#8217;s &#8216;Responsible Cloud&#8217; approach to cloud computing. <img title="More..." src="http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" />Of course I had too much to say to fit in just a single short burst, so this post is about part 2 of the podcast.<span id="more-106"></span></p>
<p>In part 2 of podcast, Carl and I talk about:</p>
<ul>
<li> cost details, pricing, and licensing models for cloud management tools</li>
<li>options for open source and &#8216;freemium&#8217; tools for cloud computing management</li>
<li>the problems of an old-school approach to cloud computing management</li>
<li>the issues of paying for cloud computing management using traditional models</li>
<li>the critical dangers associated with a slow adoption of cloud computing management</li>
<li>the need to integrate with existing SOA, reporting, and other in-house disciplines</li>
<li>difficulties of managing on-premise, off-premise, and hybrid clouds</li>
<li>the real long-term ROI and NPV of cloud computing and management</li>
<li>the importance of analytics, chargeback, capacity management, and accountability in predictable cost models for cloud computing</li>
<li>the difficulty of visibility, verifiability, predictability, and the trust relationship with cloud computing providers</li>
<li>and what to look for in both pricing and general comfort levels</li>
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<p>It was a great session. You should check it out <a title="TechTarget Podcast: Cloud computing management overview" href="http://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid201_gci1374130,00.html" target="_blank">at TechTarget&#8217;s SearchCloudComputing.com site!</a></p>
<p>Andi.</p>
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