Comments on: Is BYOPC Really Key to Attracting Millennials? http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/20100201/byopc-critical-to-attracting-millennials/ Part-time musings of a full-time technologist Thu, 17 May 2012 06:18:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jon Wallace http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/20100201/byopc-critical-to-attracting-millennials/comment-page-1/#comment-60111 Jon Wallace Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:51:55 +0000 http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/?p=262#comment-60111 Hi Andi, Great post on a prominent and interesting topic... I must say that I have to agree with you that BYOPC will in itself have zero effect with regard to staff attraction or retention however the 'choice' of device will. Where you have a development team for example that say are looking to build products for say cloud platforms, you may find that they have experience using development tools that are OS X based and as such are less keen to work on Windows. Similar to what John said, users of certain devices do bring about a certain type of corporate culture - for example with technology people, giving them any new shiny toy can boost morale and turn a sour culture into a happy one. Another point I will make is that most vendors who applaud the BYOPC model don't really understand the full ramifications regarding it such as tax liabilities and what to do if an employee destroys their machine. Sure, many will say that BYOPC is the employee responsibility but do they really want said individual sat on their hands because said individual can't actually afford to replace the computer they just broke this month? Cheers, Jon Wallace Director, Emerging Technology & Strategy AppSense Hi Andi,

Great post on a prominent and interesting topic…

I must say that I have to agree with you that BYOPC will in itself have zero effect with regard to staff attraction or retention however the ‘choice’ of device will. Where you have a development team for example that say are looking to build products for say cloud platforms, you may find that they have experience using development tools that are OS X based and as such are less keen to work on Windows.

Similar to what John said, users of certain devices do bring about a certain type of corporate culture – for example with technology people, giving them any new shiny toy can boost morale and turn a sour culture into a happy one.

Another point I will make is that most vendors who applaud the BYOPC model don’t really understand the full ramifications regarding it such as tax liabilities and what to do if an employee destroys their machine. Sure, many will say that BYOPC is the employee responsibility but do they really want said individual sat on their hands because said individual can’t actually afford to replace the computer they just broke this month?

Cheers,
Jon Wallace
Director, Emerging Technology & Strategy
AppSense

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]]> By: JohnDKeller http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/20100201/byopc-critical-to-attracting-millennials/comment-page-1/#comment-618 JohnDKeller Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:18:03 +0000 http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/?p=262#comment-618 I'm not a Millennial so what do I know, but when I was looking for my first jobs, it wasn't the tools (PC or lack thereof) I was going to get that tipped the scales in favor of a job. Instead the $$, the potential of the job and the possible effect of taking that job on where I wanted to go career-wise weighed heavily. And yes, just getting a job was important. I completely agree with you that BYOPC should not not be the end-all, be-all strategy for corporations to attract and retain younger generation employees AND certainly is not the only way to put state-of-the-art technology in to our employee's hands if that is necessary. I’m not a Millennial so what do I know, but when I was looking for my first jobs, it wasn’t the tools (PC or lack thereof) I was going to get that tipped the scales in favor of a job. Instead the $$, the potential of the job and the possible effect of taking that job on where I wanted to go career-wise weighed heavily. And yes, just getting a job was important.
I completely agree with you that BYOPC should not not be the end-all, be-all strategy for corporations to attract and retain younger generation employees AND certainly is not the only way to put state-of-the-art technology in to our employee’s hands if that is necessary.

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]]> By: Andi http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/20100201/byopc-critical-to-attracting-millennials/comment-page-1/#comment-603 Andi Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:46:15 +0000 http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/?p=262#comment-603 @ John - Interesting perspective. I like the culture aspect - very important to millennials especially, across many angles. Makes me wonder which comes first - the culture or the BYOPC program. :) But as an indicator of a positive culture for millennials, I can see a BYOPC program could speak volumes. I am not convinced on the productivity argument. It may well be a valid driver for BYOPC, and anecdotally it makes some sense. But I have never seen it backed up with anything more than assertions and self-reporting. I think that one especially needs more research to be really convincing. Is the productivity cost-effective, given the typically higher costs of Macs, for example? It would be interesting to know more about it. Anyway, you can still give staff Macs (or anything else) without running a BYOPC program. Desktop virtualization still delivers the same benefits, but by owning the systems, you avoid a lot of the legal, technical, and HR issues of BYOPC. EMA for example has Macs in our inventory, as do many companies. Good points though - thanks for commenting. Andi. @ John – Interesting perspective. I like the culture aspect – very important to millennials especially, across many angles. Makes me wonder which comes first – the culture or the BYOPC program. :) But as an indicator of a positive culture for millennials, I can see a BYOPC program could speak volumes.

I am not convinced on the productivity argument. It may well be a valid driver for BYOPC, and anecdotally it makes some sense. But I have never seen it backed up with anything more than assertions and self-reporting. I think that one especially needs more research to be really convincing. Is the productivity cost-effective, given the typically higher costs of Macs, for example? It would be interesting to know more about it.

Anyway, you can still give staff Macs (or anything else) without running a BYOPC program. Desktop virtualization still delivers the same benefits, but by owning the systems, you avoid a lot of the legal, technical, and HR issues of BYOPC. EMA for example has Macs in our inventory, as do many companies.

Good points though – thanks for commenting.

Andi.

]]> By: John Whaley http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/20100201/byopc-critical-to-attracting-millennials/comment-page-1/#comment-599 John Whaley Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:02:08 +0000 http://pleasediscuss.com/andimann/?p=262#comment-599 Andi, Interesting article. In my experience it has been less about the BYOPC per se but rather the corporate culture that it implies. So a company that adopts a BYOPC program is more likely to attract millennials just by the fact they consider adopting such a program. The other wrinkle is Mac, there are a lot of passionate Mac users out there who are vocal proponents of BYOPC. They make the (probably true) argument that they are much more productive when using a Mac. Andi,

Interesting article. In my experience it has been less about the BYOPC per se but rather the corporate culture that it implies. So a company that adopts a BYOPC program is more likely to attract millennials just by the fact they consider adopting such a program.

The other wrinkle is Mac, there are a lot of passionate Mac users out there who are vocal proponents of BYOPC. They make the (probably true) argument that they are much more productive when using a Mac.

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